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  Analysis of anti-607 BCE Rebuttals

  by Ethos in

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  i agreed yesterday to engage in the '607' topic.

  i've read numerous threads and am well aware that this topic has been addressed and dissected quite thoroughly.

  therefore, if you are uninterested in participating, that's fine.

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  never a jw

  Conclusion:

  So the ending point of the 70 years is 539 BCE.

  Your conclusion implies that you trust secular chronology and history.

  If you accept secular history to reach 539 BCE, you have to accept 587/586 BCE for the fall of Jerusalem too.
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  My country is sick

  by sabastious in

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  this is a melancholy day for me.

  over the past few years i have been studying american politics and have enjoyed learning perspectives from different ideologies.

  i personally lean towards conservative values when it comes to creating legislature, however i am socially liberal.

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  *gasp* Yes, educating our citizens can never lead to any good. Especially when we educate the poor, who could not afford to pay for private schools. DISASTER! No collective good can come of that!

  Do people think before they post, or is this really the bubble they live in?

  New chapter. Your vitriol suggests that you don't forget. One more time I apologize for past offenses. I hope you bury the hatchet soon.

  True, basic education (K-12) is absolutely necessary and should be covered by everyone who can contribute, but where do you set the limit to all the freebies that the citizenry has come to expect from big brother. Common sense dictates that you acquire the goods and services that you can afford, no more. The American citizenry has gone way over budget and has burden generations to come. That's immoral.

  By the way, I do live in a figurative bubble. Almost everyone around me owe their house, or their cars, or have credit cards maxed out, or are not prepared for retirement, or have to borrow for their children's higher education. Not I. I have zero debt and don't expect to have any until the day I die. I am not rich, but I live by a philosophy of self sufficiency and personal responsibility. I suppose in the U.S. that makes me weird, strange, a bubble dweller.
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  My country is sick

  by sabastious in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is a melancholy day for me.

  over the past few years i have been studying american politics and have enjoyed learning perspectives from different ideologies.

  i personally lean towards conservative values when it comes to creating legislature, however i am socially liberal.

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  The problem is not Obama, or politicians in general, the problem is the people who elected him. Let's face it, the "free education, free healthcare, subsidized housing, subsidized food, subsidized transportation, etc. etc." message is more appealing to the average American than personal self-sufficiency and personal responsibility. In few years we will be the new Greece, then people will come to their senses and understand the much higher cost of having big brother administering the capital and resources of the nation.
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  It's Time to Dump the Hebrew Scriptures.

  by smmcroberts in

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  2. bible

  why do christian religions continue to pretend that the hebrew scriptures (aka the old testament) is god-inspired and that it describes a loving god?

  don't they see that the ot is largely an embarrassment to its believers?

  please read my blog to see why i think christianity should dispense with the ot all together:.

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  No stone cutters

  Read my comment again. I thing you missed the essence, namely that we need a God to scare the living day lights out of the people who are prone to do evil.

  The French Revolution was started for the right reasons, but went the wrong way. In the end, the entrenched, opressive political and religious systems were shaken for the the better, long-term that is. This forum is an example of what we owe to many of the revolutions around the world, especially the French and the American revolution.
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  It's Time to Dump the Hebrew Scriptures.

  by smmcroberts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why do christian religions continue to pretend that the hebrew scriptures (aka the old testament) is god-inspired and that it describes a loving god?

  don't they see that the ot is largely an embarrassment to its believers?

  please read my blog to see why i think christianity should dispense with the ot all together:.

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  I propose going a step further, dump the New Testament too. ... OK, let's compromise, let's keep one of the gospels for the sake of keeping the weak minded, the easily tempted, and the evil doers at bay. For my own protection I am forced to admit that I need a powerful God, even if it's an idea only, to control the evil inclinations of those who are incapable of figuring out the Golden Rule out of the context of religion..
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  Why I appreciate this place

  by mythreesons in

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  someone asked in another topic essentially what is your purpose in being here?

  what do you plan to accomplish?

  i thought i would start this topic as a result of that one.. i personally don't think i can 'change' anybody by being here...but the way i see it, this forum gives me a place to vent.

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  I appreciate it because it offers public debate, common sense, and allows for differences between its members, from the very devoted believer to the staunch atheist. I also have found a stark difference between the "wonderful spiritual food" at the meetings of JW's and the much more intelligent, common sensical comments in here. This place has also been a great learning experience in the few months that I have been here.

  Thank you Simon
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  The quickening has begun

  by trujw in

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  ok is it just me or does there seem to be a surge of new brothers and sisters on this site?

  do tell where are you from?

  i am from northern california anyone from around here?

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  Burbank, CA
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  Wishful thinking? Will WTBS ever go down?

  by MC RubberMallet in

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  2. beliefs

  i see it posted that many are 'waking up' etc.

  but the religion is still growing!

  many enjoy the kool-aid.

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  I think the full impact of the internet is still to be felt by the WTS in the near future. Take me for example, I had known of JW's for over 20 years and thought that they were just another goofy religion. It was just four months ago that I decided to type the words Jehova's Witnesses in the Google search engine. Fast forward to taday and you will find that I am an expert in the history of JW's and I am becoming an expert in their theology. You can bet your butt I am going to use this expertise for many years to come to dissuade people from ever stepping in a kingdom hell. I am sure I will be responsible for taking away few prospective members and helping others out.

  The WTS's peak may still be in the future but their decline is sure to follow soon after. Both, peak and decline, are going to happen within a decade.
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  I have a girlfriend now and "me so happy"

  by RayPublisher in

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  here is my sweet survival plan, post jw life!

  ...yet another part of my healing process...yes healing is g o o d.... .

  btw, it feels so great to not have to hide and to able to put my picture up anywhere i feel like!.

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  Excellent Eric! I am ver y happy for you, just slow down from this point on.
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  The EGIBI Family Records WIPESOUT Watchtower 607 B.C.E. Date for GOOD!

  by TheSnarkyApologist in

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  this is information gained from carl olof jonsson's book entitled "the gentile times reconsidered".

  it's an extremely valuable piece of proof that utterly demolishes the watchtower claim of "extra kings" and "extra time" being inserted into the discussion!.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53_076v7a5s.

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  Leolaia,

  Objectively looking at the preponderance of the evidence together, one can readily conclude decisively that 607 BC cannot be right; there's just too much evidence. You can't cherry-pick the things you like that support your chronology and then dismiss the rest for no other reason than it conflicts with your chronology. That's not how history works. The Society claims that it's just a coincidence and secular records are unreliable. These are records that reflect contemporaneous daily life, from many different quarters (not just the Egibi family), and they all agree on the same "errors". History is about assessing probabilities, and it is the height of bias to prefer an analysis that produces such an implausible mass of coincidental errors to one that makes perfect sense of the preponderance of the evidence.

  I could use the next thirty years of my life researching in your field of study and sharpenning my writing skills, but I could never match the substance and the form of your writing. Thanks. Can I use this paragraph in a letter to some prominents "friends" of a congregation and make it look as my own paragraph by replacing a word with a synonym here and there.